Showing posts with label Christopher Hitchens. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Christopher Hitchens. Show all posts

Tuesday, May 4, 2010

[215] Follow Me Down This Deadly Road

I think I’ve spent a good portion of my time thinking about my “final moments.” I just got done watching an interview with Christopher Hitchens and how he feels in, what are likely to be, his final years. I’m also prompted by a status that talked about how old we’re getting and how scary or ambiguous the future is.

I think the only way to really get over a fear is to desire it. Become a suicide bomber so to speak. And to a certain extent, and in a number of scenarios, I can see myself wanting death. If I’m sick and will never get better. If everyone I’ve ever given a shit about is now gone and I’m forced to repeat the cycle of watching people mature or deal with the stumbling blocks of a new relationship. If I’ve just become so good at everything I no longer feel like there’s something to learn. If Mexicans took over the earth. (Think how skewed your racism scale is if I had said “Blacks”, haha)

I think one of my most over used words is perspective. I think about “depressing” things because they give me perspective. When something fails or succeeds I try not to get too pissed nor ridiculously lost in happiness. In a way, having these ideas is what allows me to be perpetually happy. It’s like I’m stuck on a loop labeled “deal with it.” I know that regardless of what tomorrow holds, let alone years down the line, I’ve led a fulfilling life and been luckier than the majority of anything that has ever existed on this planet.

At the same time, I feel this manifests as me looking fairly indecisive about things. School comes to mind. I literally loath almost everything I do in class. I hate the amount of money spent. I hate not feeling like I’m learning anything beyond random factoids I could pick up from a week of stumbling. I’ve still yet to drop out because I could make an “I hate” list just as long about the working world. The most hovering and impeding thought to my happy flow, though, is that I’m wasting my time doing things I don’t want.

Now, of course, what we want and “have” to do have conflicting practical implications. We are thus forced to “lower” our wants in accordance with what a specific system provides. My “escape” from doing this is to make my expectations of myself more important than what I would like to believe I can accomplish in the world “out there.” If I can flow mentally, I’ll get along just fine in my day to day regardless. I assume I would be happy with a bad-ass, custom made palace just outside of a city where I could throw parties and slip in and out through secret doors. That is a very “out there” kind of goal. But inside my head I understand that what I want is to create, be surrounded with good people, and be capable of making noise without getting in trouble. All are doable without money.

The real problems occur when you don’t see yourself even living up to your mental expectations. The beginning of last year, when the house had so much work to be done, I was practically high. New seating, pole installed, tack up the white board, tear up the basement, invent a new version of pong…it feels brilliant to feel accomplished. I certainly don’t feel that degree of “getting shit done” this year, and while I blame myself, I’m not crushed with guilt or think I’m the only thing to blame. I just wish I had the level of perspective to know how heavily I can weigh my culpability verses my circumstances.

When you’re constantly reminding yourself of who you are and how you expect yourself to be, it bleeds into how you deal with people and your circumstances. I pity the fool who thinks I merely hate school. I hate what I think while I’m practicing it. I hate what I see it do to people. I hate how corrupt and blatant in its exploitation it is. I also don’t qualify hanging out with my friends or meeting new people as “school.” I can audit a class if I’m looking for inspiration or contact a teacher if Almighty Google fails when I have a question. It doesn’t take ten thousand dollars a year. In the exact same way that I feel myself waste my time in school, I see it happen with people. Luckily those are easier interactions to fix, but my “coldness” or indifference and impatience stems from this.

I want to believe that regardless of the rules, ideas, and settings we allow ourselves to inhabit we can dramatically and quickly change into something better. Everything is changing at all times; I don’t want to sit around for sixty years before gay people can get married or we decide the earth is worth saving. I think this culture of dragging our feet and constantly hoping for the future permeates so much of what we do. Every time I’m reminded that I just have “one more semester left” I’m asked to join in the game of denying every second that semester consists of. Every time a bill is passed that doesn’t take effect for years we sell the idea that good things take ridiculous time frames that we don’t really operate under. The completely obscured and ambiguous future brings me no comfort whatsoever because it’s made up and assumed as potentially viable. It’s a reality we trick ourselves into finding solace with so we can remain contented now. It’s a trap.

Did you know we live in Utopia? We have the means to live anywhere and feed everyone. We can create what it means to live life, explore interests and invent questions to our heart’s delight. We can build upon knowledge to not only fix problems, but make it so they never need exist again. I think it’s not just important but absolutely necessary that we stop thinking as if we don’t understand our circumstances, our potential. Stop fearing or expecting anything from the future and get your mind right now and things will always play out as you expect they should. And if my final thoughts are anything like what I fall asleep with every single night, I’ll be just fine.  

Saturday, December 27, 2008

[67] Those Books Get Me Going

I've gotten about a fourth of the way through "The Portable Atheist" and, go figure, I can all but refrain from banging my head against the wall when I think about what I'm reading in the book contrasted with what I'm hearing from the faithful position. When I said that arguments people use today were used, and thoroughly refuted in the past, it was a grand understatement. People are slaves to themselves, and we can see this when we understand why we are slaves to history. The same recurring patterns in thought don't just magically arise from the One True Basin of stupidity, but they do in fact remain alive when people excuse their ignorance. I've made it a concentrated effort on my part to not just be another non-believer. I cannot say I've been equally respected from the other side. It angers me to think that brilliant people have put sometimes their lives on the line to expose the pure and blatant illogical premises and contradictions in theistic arguments, and yet authors today are still received with the same garbled and recycled bullshit, to put it frankly, as some logical equivalent to be wrestled in a debate arena. 

"An evangelical preacher is not obliged to be well read" George Eliot. This is one of I assure you many lines that stood out for me while reading and its simplicity speaks to why the factuality behind it is so powerful. It is not exactly easy to sit and read a 400 page book on anything, and most people today are masters at finding every excuse in the world as to why they are too busy or too disinclined to find the time to read anything. This is more than just a tragedy, because now instead of simply being able to write off the ill-informed as meaningless and insignificant, we now have a regular wall of ignorance of beleaguered despots who spout their "Divine Word" as if its stemming from this universal desperate position which requires a level of piety only understood by the truly inoculated to the falsehoods of this pitiful word.

I used to say that I was ok if someone believed in something as long as it did not hurt anyone and made them happy. I don't know if I'm entirely comfortable with the position as it is becoming too vast of an issue to account for solid definitions regarding harm, happiness, belief, or god. The one position I still maintain is that people are self centered and be it through a gaping hole or passive one, all of their actions will be traced back to something self fulfilling. This isn't to say that progressive and helpful actions have anything taken away from them, but when you read enough and listen to the brain scientists lecture the real facts about your humanly situation sink in.

Here's an anecdote that will help illuminate why I'm so presently frustrated. I'm reading this book, I have another one lined up, and I've just sat through another few hours of Beyond Belief lectures. My mother, who I've disregarded as such and never treat in a way that would make sense for her to continually talk of thinking and praying for me, sends me A Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren. This I not only found to be simply pathetic, but overtly offensive. I've spend the time to actually learn and establish a position, her half-assed attempt at reaching out and connecting is to throw a too typical piece of insufferable lacking in coherence book at the duh-fact that I like to read. It really bothered me that when I picked it up to discover it was a book within the wrapping, no other book popped into my mind about what it would be when I opened it. "Christian" is not some stance on life that can assert its truth and authority over your dominion, it's a PATHETIC and TELEGRAPHED set of demonstrable beliefs that work on the people who dwell in bullshit excuses. I'm sick of finding no other word to describe instances like this as anything but typical. I want to burn the book, take pictures, and send them to her with a simple "you've got to be kidding me" note attached. That woman actually believes that her prayers may in one way or another work and manifest into some "miracle" that I guess is supposed to make us civil with each other. And if not, o well it is still will be just some hard to deal with part of her god's plan.

All these people hoping for heaven and talking of this sad and depressing situation they find themselves in. Who are you and why are you looking for trouble? People who are this sad and lonely all the time must be asking for it because the, while pissed off, unbeliever here remains pissed off, I'm never sitting back rubbing my hands together for what may be some day promise from biblical yokels. You have a fucking choice in regards to how you think and act during your life and if you don't realize it soon I'm going to make it a personal vendetta to bring shame and ridicule upon dealers of this faith based drug. I tried to leave it up to people to take self responsibility and evolve, yet that does not appear to work ,so in retort the unapologetic activist can step in.

Another thing, stop levying the charge starting with "Have you read such and such book" because 99 times out of 100 what your trying to say about me has nothing to do with a bigger point I'm trying to make. The very title of Rick Warrens book to me presupposes that those without a belief in god cannot find purpose which is utterly insane and offensive. I've listened to Rick Warren talk about the book and his position, he seems like a nice guy. I've listened to Dan Dennett refute a key gaping logic aspect to the book and I've perused it a bit myself. Forgive me if I'm sick of hearing the same things and played out notions again and excuse my resistance to biblical quotes poised as evidence. Lee Strobel, who's famed "Case for Christ" is frequently suggested to me, has a degree in law, not physics, not theology, not biology, not astronomy, not a plethora of other things that he haphazardly skews together as this magnificent case. Not to mention the 2 part, like 3 hour long absolute tearing apart of the "documentary" he made based from the book. And finally the bible. What's the biggest thing people want to do in defending their faith? Hands down, quote the bible, close second comes some personal experience story. By me playing by their rules, quoting the bible, I can make them look just as stupid as they make themselves, yet unless I read the entire thing and from their opinion,or "faithful understanding" no less, my simple charges of it not being factually, morally, logically, and scientifically correct don't just up and disappear because you've tried to divert the issue and discredit my "interpreting" ability. Then try to get me started on all the people you've never even heard of, let alone read.

I don't think you deserve your truth. It'd be like handing a 12 gauge to a five year old. I still don't think I'm "better" than any of the people that so frequently piss me off, but I do think my information is better, trustworthy, and verifiable. I think my position is supported and can be independently confirmed. My way of thinking provides clarity and truth to people who are ready to find it. And this is not because I'm some ordained prophet who's had some secret revealed to me about the nature of life, nor because I think I can survive death.

For the love of Goodness will you please encourage the faithful to pick up, o I dunno, maybe 1 or 20 of the books written in the last few hundred years that explain why they no longer need to inculcate dogma to be happy. Maybe people will stop feigning like their glorifying god and start to glorify life.

Thursday, November 27, 2008

[164] Boys and Girls, The Perfect Debate

Thursday, November 27, 2008 at 8:38pm

While this isn’t prompted by a usual headache that spins off into a piece of brilliant insight, I am banking on the fact that I haven’t written anything tantamount to the amount of thinking I find myself doing. I think I’d like to touch on boys and girls, little ones because their skin is so soft, and how they interact with each other. I also what to mete out what I think it would take to be the kind of persuasive person to convey the “ultimate truth” that I think people are happy and well rehearsed in avoiding.

Now I’m sure this will be a hasty generalization, but I find it peculiar that when it comes to how boys and girls, or should I say men and women if you didn’t get my overtly creepy humor, interact with each other, there are major pitfalls in how the women choose to interpret the situation. I used to think it was simply my mother that would make the elaborate stories in her head about my character or intentions, but my recent endeavors with womanly kind is proving my view to be incomplete. I hesitate to say things like “all women do this,” but I don’t think I would be too far gone if I said many, if not most, of them do. I say this for one main reason, and speculative others I’ll elaborate on shortly. The main reason I feel is because of how they relate amongst themselves. Just as men get a kick out of knowing the same things about such cliches as sports or cars, a woman’s rally point is behind the eternal fight against men. If we speak purely about biology, guys are bigger, more domineering, are, historically speaking, the providers and purveyors of their clan or family. All of this doesn’t simply go away because of suffrage and a few hundred years. In light of this recent history, I can at least imagine, if not fully understand and empathize, why women would choose this line of behavior to characterize men and effectively “chalk one up” on the board for themselves.

Now obviously guys do the same sorts of things. They can underestimate women, make lude comments about how they’ll all act when aunt flow is in town, and outright disrespect their bodies in what may be described as immature jesting. So yes, women, I grant you that there are a plethora of reasons that you can mount a defense from and then counter attack to guys behavior. With that said, I think there is much misunderstanding when it comes to differentiating and dignifying the guys who can recognize when they’ve fucked up or mis-characterized you, and “guys in general.” In order to not have to keep restating this, it would be a safe bet to assume that anything I say about most girls or guys can and does go both ways.

I think I will be able to elaborate on my view if I address the notion of “girl talk.” Mr. Bowman and I found ourselves “struggling” to understand the waves of intricate girl understanding wafting through the air when I invited our female friends to engage us in a sample of this talk, or so it may have appeared. When it comes to girls, it seems as if they believe there is this secret that gets passed around with every phrase or utterance. Conversely, guys are about straight talk. When I describe my interactions or friendships with guys who are “on the level” it is because of this implicit understanding that if I call my friend stupid, he’s not going to go home and dwell on my narrow view of his intelligence and then get angry at me for the next hour or day. This kind of interaction does not carry over to women, at least in the same capacity, in my experience. What I feel happens is a projection of that “secret” that girls are passing around gets implemented into whatever comment or question the guy is asking. As if this isn’t a problem enough, girls minds are wired differently, which means they are going to be the ones who make all sorts of elaborate connections and ties to history that are going to immediately reinforce their perception of your statement. In other words, if I get called stupid, I don’t flash back to every instance my friend has called me stupid to then make a case for how he disrespects me or doesn’t care about my feelings. Nor do I think that the comment relates to my attire, relationship with my parents, or physique.

Now this is not to say that there aren’t times when what the guy says is laden with sarcasm, hidden meaning, and ignorant stabs, but the overwhelming majority of times, I assure you, this isn’t the case.

I am a fan of the show The Pick-up Artist. I can understand why many girls would not see it in the same ways I would, nor do I agree with every tactic or method in Mystery’s arsenal. With that said, the show is not designed to teach you how to become a “player.” The comments from the guys when they get booted off the show resound around the idea that it was a life changing experience, not a missed opportunity to get laid. Mystery makes it a point to answer questions about women or his method in the extras in which he does much characterizing of women as a whole. I can see why this would come off as insulting or short-sided to some women, but again, I see him talking from an evolutionary standpoint, and his personal past evidence, not from a pillar of assumptions he’s trying to batter women with. That is at the heart of my problem with this whole thing, these assumptions that go unchecked, and when challenged, rise up in revulsion with a wave of “how dare you.” This is what I feel the real battle is centered on. A perceptional one, with the guys either too lazy or frankly too stupid to care about making the little changes or being accountable, and girls vehemently entrenched in their method and ideals that culminates in a bubble of “womanly understanding” that alienates and demonizes guys whether they deserve it or not.

If not a purely speculative one, then at least a smaller part of it is an idea more reinforced from comments I hear about women from women. Apparently there are more self conscious and insecure than then men in general, if not dramatically more so. No, I don't find this as a secret or extremely telling, but I do feel it would help to explain why women mount the type of defense they do. If you don't feel good about yourself, no wonder you feel like the guy in question is attacking that aspect of you, regardless of what he's said. If I can supplement my philosophy on top of this whole issue, I would say that it goes back to people not being honest and intimate with themselves. Not understanding why they fail or what they excel at, and not choosing what framework they are going to implement that keeps it all in, key word, perspective. But that could be a digression for another blog.

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Completely switching gears, you may even want to call it a different blog, but this is prompted after the latest debate I watched Hitchens v Wilson, which I’ve posted on my “Some Sources” blog. I’ve watched at least 7-10 debates involving Hitchens, and yet I felt this one came off better than his ones in the past. First, he wasn’t debating a raving lunatic like D’Souza and the format of the debate was conducive to straight question, answer, and clarify like a normal discussion. What was most striking to me was that his examples, which I’ve heard countless times, came off more emotionally impacting than I’ve seen in the past. Essentially, this prompted me to think about my dream debate and why I think it would go over so well. When it comes down to it, there are many complex, confusing, and seemingly contradictory reason why I do and act the way I do. The reason is because there is no other way for me to convey what it is I am in fact feeling or thinking at that moment. I feel like this undermines the integrity of my arguments or statements, but I simply must say so be it, and try even harder and conveying through work and results what it is I’m talking about.

And yet, how to go about this another way? Provide pinnacles of each aspect you see as important to influence as mass group of people. Find a way to portray the overall philosophy that people can feel as justified to identify with in as many ways that they’ve done with modern religion. This is more simply to say, create an all inviting atmosphere with tools people find easy enough to help entrench themselves within it. Christianity works because you can take whatever verse you want, given that it spans the whole of human emotions, and connect in that way. There are all sorts of sects and figures that you can choose from that vibe at your level. So I say, do that for secular ideals and promotion. There are times when I simply want the cool, overtly direct, and masterful use of language the Sam Harris brings to a debate, that I don’t feel some of the others convey as well. Where one may falter, stick in an artful genius to press the point as effectively and far as is able. No opportunity to say “well I’m not a physicist” because Lawrence Krauss is sitting next to you. “I’m not sure if it was Mathew or Mark” can easily be digressed from the point of Rook Hawkins, Dan Barker, or Bart Ehrman.

Just like I consider myself to be the sum of all the parts, be it the people I dignify as friends, the activities I engage in for fun, or my demeanor towards any given person at any time, I think arguments need to be viewed and expressed in this way. I never feel like my meaning is complete by just referring one book or one set of videos, because the essence of the ideals is embodied in everything I’ve learned as well as the process of how I’ve come to learn it. Your arguments and presence should not be constrained by a convergence of your assumptions. Your demeanor should not be a mere retaliation of your strife against others. It may take a relatively long time to come full circle and be able to express true empathy, accept points of contention to better understand an argument, and finally have the will and reason to make necessary changes to your Self and how you express it, but it has to be done. One comment I made the other day resounds through my psyche in one way or another all the time. I really wish everyone could just be happy, informed, expressive, and constructive, but I know I'm not going to have a real choice but to abuse, manipulate, and destroy them. When your "on the level" such a damning fate is impossible. When you understand what it is that I would convey in the perfect debate, nothing more really needs to be said.


 Billy Bowman at 10:17pm November 27, 2008
Was going to say something cliche about how right that first one was, but then I realized cliches piss me off because they sound retarded and decided to go off on a little tangent before I got back to my original point....

Which was, I agree with your first article, more or less, completely. I expect an uproar (as I'm sure you do) from certain ...  Read More people, but whatever. I'll read an respond to your second article (which I'm now going to call these writings of yours for reasons i could explain if you wish but are rather irrelevant to my point..) some other time.
 Chris Cashel-Cordo at 11:29pm November 27, 2008
"Now I’m sure this will be a hasty generalization"

It is.
 Billy Bowman at 12:23am November 28, 2008
When i first read your comment, cash money, i thought it said (or rather.. meant)...

Now I'll give you a hasty generalization: 'It is'
 Nick P. at 2:51am November 28, 2008
Ah, but by me denoting it as potentially hasty and a generalization I would hope you extracted that I understand the grounds I'm playing on and making sure it doesn't come off as overtly ill informed and presumptuous. By saying it anyways, I express my belief, to that extent, that it is not entirely hasty nor in bad taste by generalizing.
 Chris Cashel-Cordo at 8:58am November 28, 2008
I disagree. Its bullshit to try and base an argument off a base generalization. You do it four of five times in your first three paragraphs, and then it keeps showing up. And then you take these as fact. They are not facts. The question here is an interesting one, but an argument based on generalizations will have a hard time holding up to scrutiny.
 Billy Bowman at 12:04pm November 28, 2008
There are issues with basing an entire argument on generalizations, but I have to go with Nick here and say since he did qualify it, you can take it in stride that this argument applies and is only valid in the general case, and that there ARE exceptions--as many as exceptions as you can find that fail to meet one or more of his presumptions that he applied to the general case.
 Chris Cashel-Cordo at 12:09pm November 28, 2008
Fine. But there are more exceptions than examples that fit his generalizations, combined with the authoritative tone, make the argument simply end up seeming pretentious.
 Billy Bowman at 12:12pm November 28, 2008
Very well, however, in my experience, there are far more examples of this misunderstanding and mischaracterization then i find exceptions... as for the reasons, I don't care to speculate, and the ones listed are as good as any i suppose.
 Nick P. at 2:46pm November 28, 2008
"In order to not have to keep restating this, it would be a safe bet to assume that anything I say about most girls or guys can and does go both ways."

Let's remember that when it comes to a topic like this I don't really have a choice but to generalize and draw from my experiences in the past. It's one thing to talk of these exceptions as if they aren't few and far between, and another to hand me a thousand page book detailing how terribly wrong I am. I never once say "This is a fact" and always say how it seems or appears to me. This is also not really an argument, it's me describing my experiences with an issue that really pisses me off. Overwhelmingly in my experience what I describe has been the case, and take the zeitgeist around Hollywood portrayals of this alone to at least hint I'm not yards off base, and many have noticed the same thing. If you wanted an argument I would've made it specific and drawn up concrete examples and cited articles. Me pretentious? I'll just call it ironic given that I wrote it in opposition to the pretentious tone and look that comes my way when I try to understand why a girl is acting a certain way.

Tuesday, September 2, 2008

[149 (129) Holy Fucked] Prompted By Debates

Tuesday, September 2, 2008 at 8:39pm

I have to stop watching debates. It sickens me to think that people with Ph D's can reach a level of dishonesty that is frankly sickening. Some of you may not find it surprising that after watching another debate between Dinesh and Hitchens, I still want Dinesh sniped. I only got through about 5 minutes of the opening argument in a debate between Ehrman and Craig, and had to stop because of how ridiculously Craig managed to present the “facts” that “most historians agree” about Jesus's resurrection. It doesn't take a doctorate in biblical studies to read, nor does it take a genius intellect to fact check. Those are the only skills I practice, and they allow me the privilege of becoming angry and sick when the amassed bullshit comes spewing from their putrid gullets. Dinesh, no surprise, did his usual dance around questions and has seemingly forgotten the words “yes” and “no” are still legitimate and understandable ways of conveying an answer. Craig manages to find extra biblical sources written 5-7 years after Jesus's alleged resurrection (despite not a single document placing the event any less than 40-70 years afterward, let alone confirming its truth), and maintains an extremely vague and naively formulated notion of what “evidence” means. I shouldn't be unable to contain myself in yelling at my Ipod when someone is speaking. I can't fathom the reasons someone would put themselves in a debate, when a meagerly interested layman who can use The Google, can gather more than enough real evidence to silence the lies.

I'm still debating what aspects of the debate format I truly hate the most. We can start with the ten minute rants the persistently ignorant debater may go on. A Dinesh rant can drift so far from any established topic, you wonder if he even listens to the opposition before he opens his mouth. Or maybe I am disgusted with the idea that granting someone the opportunity to “rebut” somehow redeems the previous bullshit they've attempted to pass off. Let's not forget that generally debates are open to the public, so one of the most redeeming factors must be that a mass of, perhaps ill-informed people, can now walk away with a song in their hearts and a tear in their eye after having been touched by Dinesh, yay. Maybe its the complete ignoring of what it means to commit a logical error, phonetic faux pas, quote mine, and mischaracterization. Of course I could just as quickly mention the manner in which Dinesh's tone goes beyond presumptuous and pious onto something his fervently flapping lips and flailing arms are struggling to mimic. It could all just boil down into the vote at the end about who “won” that really got me, but this feels more like that despicable icing on an ever growing and disgusting cake. These debates have done little more than make me agonize for the guys on the other end of the table, and clench my brow in baffled disdain for the pathetic conductor weaving such a masterful train wreck.

Evidence is not something we take to be true until something new comes in and trumps it. Evidence comes AFTER and in SUPPORT of the question at hand. With that said, when a fucking idiot says the evidence for Jesus's resurrection is the gospel accounts, indeed actually written no less, by Mark, Mathew, Luke, and John, I don't care if they are a Ph D, they are emphatically wrong. They are not wrong because I say so, they are wrong because they choose to accept an outright destructive and backwards notion of the methodology behind drawing conclusions and formulating arguments. How ridiculous would I look if I said something like “evolution is true because Dawkin's says so in The Ancestor's Tale”? This is exactly what those who fight for religion do. The presuppose, they already have their answer, everything needs to be forcibly packed within the confines of the story whether it makes sense or not. Why do we grant ourselves the right to give up thinking because someone is a “noted scholar and department head” of some name dropped university. Titles do not depict the character of an honest, and dare I say capable, person to wrestle with any given issue at hand. The mere facts alone that Dinesh has no training in biology, no training in physics, no training in textual criticism, and hasn't even grasped the notion of properly quoting someone who is sitting five feet from him, should be enough to automatically disqualify him as someone deserving your respect as a Crusader for the faith.

It is granting these kinds of concessions to characters like Dinesh that are slowly eating away what our country's founders fought and died for. It is when we give a platform to someone so adamantly stupid and dishonest, from which to practically corral the curious yet uninformed masses, that we compile our problems and fuel the rate of our destruction. Pat Condell is one of the most outspoken Youtubers on what's happening in Britain when Muslim ideals, namely treating women like property, executions, hate speech, and ignorance, are going to become exempt from criticism. The Muslim community can be governed my Sharia Law instead of the laws of the country. Do you understand what this means? I've linked to his talk about it HERE. Whether there are suicide bombers within Christianity or not, does NOT detract from the real issue of doing anything, absolutely anything, because of unsubstantiated faith claims. It isn't the mere facts of the Crusades and Inquisition that make Christianity wrong. Dinesh loves the phrase “atheist regime” as if it makes any fucking sense whatsoever to call the absence of something the motivation for anything. By doing so he makes the argument about body count, not process or reason, alluding to only a few thousand (50-80, not “6 a year” as he'd so non nonchalantly tell you) dead in the past, compared to the millions dead at the hands of Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, etc. who of course did all those things because they didn't believe in God. It wasn't totalitarianism, communism, psychotic mental dispositions, or a litany of other factors and pressures, it was because they didn't have God. Of course, no one would ask where God was while the ovens were heating up, but that's because they all know the answer. Next time I punch a baby in the face, just know it's because I found out the truth about Santa Claus.

Freedom of speech should not entail an ordained right to be considered correct before you present your case, yet this is what we concede. For example, when someone is introduced as Father or Pastor so-and-so, they are automatically granted a higher status when it comes to understanding “faith” affairs, or even when it comes to giving advice or guidance. I find it quite obvious that if a leader like that tells you to pray and read the bible more in response to financial or relationship troubles, they're frankly stupid. For whatever reason, and I've been mulling this one over for a while now, when you start a sentence with “my personal conviction, opinion, or view” it somehow makes you feel like you are exempt from being made fun of, being wrong, and being made a fool of. “According to me” only says to me “I have no clue what anyone else may have to say.” This is just sad and pathetic. Consequently, this is something we frequently see during debates. Some useless story about where the presenter is coming from and their path towards faith, is manifested as “evidence” behind the “truth” and “facts” they are getting ready to lie about. Dinesh is not only a fan of this, but he also throws mud at his opposition, attacks positions not on the table, and interjects random factoids, all of which are laced with half truths or outright lies.

I'm convinced that we are going to go down in flames, maybe much sooner than I had previously speculated. Are their fighters for reason and rationality, of course. Do they get a voice in public policy? No. Do they have the answers that can be packaged and shipped like the sound bites of religion and Republicans? No. Are there even enough of them to switch strategies and induce a violent uprising that would force natural selection upon those who enjoy rotting their brains and wallowing in complacency? Maybe with enough planning...

Some of my predictions for this lifetime:
  1. America will be threatened with a nuclear bomb by an Islamic nation who is both willing and able to launch it.
  2. More and more people will coalesce around religious or “spiritual” ideals as a result of their seemingly inexplicable combativeness with nihilism and reality, rendering them helpless and panic prone when faced with a life threatening problem.
  3. Technology will drive us to always look for a new “fix” under the guise of words like “economical,” “environmentally friendly,” and “new and luxurious” all the while ignoring and never realizing what actually causes happiness.
  4. A lesser tragedy will invoke the same kinds of responses we had to 9/11 that will further extinguish once sacred rights and privileges.
  5. People will become exponentially ignorant, lazy, and afraid as the growing problems refuse to wait for us to become comfortable with solving and understanding them.
The less you care, the quicker these things will happen. Keep pretending you live in a bubble and watch as your reality changes day by day. Are you going to wait until you turn on the television to see a mushroom cloud before you stop worrying about getting your feelings hurt by learning something you didn't want to know? I await the day some new illness, who's greatest foe is stem cell research, starts wiping out the world because pandering to religious groups has stifled its progress. It was one too many when the first kid died because the parents believed in prayer and not going to the hospital. It is one too many who does not appreciate what it means to vote and be able to criticize the many many problems that will never get better without action.

These bullshit religious texts aren't saving us from global warming, no god posted a bulletin saying anything about what a fetus can or can't feel during an abortion, it is not a loving act to fuck alter boys in the ass, cover your women in black cloaks, tell your children they aren't capable of being good without a threatening god, persecute gays, execute by way of holy edict, deny horrors of totalitarianism, destroy your planet, pretend to love those who are evil, or martyring yourself for others “sins” that need to be acknowledged and grown from, not excused. ALL of these things come from faith, bias, ignorance, denial, delusion, fear, laziness, complacency, guilt, spite, immaturity, and piety, not revealed truth. From a universal perspective, you aren't even bacteria, yet you feel you are entitled to eternal happiness and perfect love. You seek this by way of opposing everything that fought to give you such an ego. Your faith brings nothing to the table. Your faith will be what kills you, and if I could sit back and watch you burn without resenting my own existence, I would.  

Friday, August 29, 2008

[127] Some Sources

Friday, August 29, 2008 at 10:44pm

I didn't even realize how much I've watched....I'll keep adding to this list, I just didn't feel like finding everything in one night.

National Geographic: The Rivals of Jesus.
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/08/national-geographic-rivals-of-jesus.html

Critical analysis for case for a creator
http://www.movie-forumz.org/showthread.php?t=42608

Hovind/Shermer Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL-cORRZdng&eurl=http://www.movie-forumz.org/showthread.php?t=45258

The God who wasn't there
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2939815864103776582&hl=en

The Qur'an
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6747824220828899563&hl=en

Many Faces of Benny Hinn
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5582961561140514506&q=benny+hinn&ei=sBUISMbHCY-05ALb5fmrAQ

God, Darwin, and Design (Ken Miller)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30_u9W6_UWA

The source for many more documentaries ranging from pretty good to complete crap.
http://www.movie-forumz.org/forumdisplay.php?f=47&order=desc

Debates

Dawkins on The Big Question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky_xRBy9M9U
Dawkins v Lennox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRPSsKIOOoQ&feature=related

Barker v Fernandez
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1879356004848236265
Barker v Friel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cINIQqye0Hw
Barker,Carrier v Coret, Rajabali
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oocFLfoT0Q4

Shermer v Wells
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pm9FC1S3Xs&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Debate

Barker v D'Souza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1arsUJI00Ko&feature=related
Singer v D'Souza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phgb67NAaHA&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Debate
Dennett v D'Souza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw7J15TeDG4&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Debate?updated-max=2008-02-14T23%3A45%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=20
Hitchens v D'Souza
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2007/10/debate-between-christopher-hitchens-and_24.html
Hitchens v D'Souza 2
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/08/dsouza-vs-hitchens-freedom-fest-2008.html
Shermer v D'Souza
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2007/10/debate-between-michael-shermer-and.html

Scientific American v Mathis (Expelled)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiLYsj5B878&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Debate

Hitchens v Hitchens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmnVQLOd9Lg&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Debate
Hitchens v Boteach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AynKncPYmv4&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Debate
Hitchens v Jackson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFiy5dPwvY8&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Debate?updated-max=2008-02-14T23%3A45%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=20
Hitchens v McGrath
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2007/10/debate-between-christopher-hitchens-and.html

Myers v Simmons
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/02/pz-myers-vs-jeffery-simmons-evolution.html

Harris v Wolpe
http://www.jewishtvnetwork.com/?bcpid=533363107&bctid=1329234778
Harris v Hewitt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AR_yFSTIbg&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Christian

Link to a whole list of debates.
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Debate

Evolution

From RNA to Human: Evolution Symposium
http://www.rockefeller.edu/evolution/video.php?src=coyne
Meyers and Dawkins discussion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XgqOKH6pwI&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Evolution
Digging for Humanities origins: Louise Leakey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-TGxJI4JwA&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Evolution
Ape Genius (This is so badass)
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/05/ape-genius-pbs-nova.html
J. Craig Venter: Joining 3.5 Billion Years of Microbial Invention
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/03/j-craig-venter-joining-35-billion-years.html
Dawkins: Break the Science Barrier
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/02/richard-dawkins-break-science-barrier.html
Human Life: Evolution to Self-Evolution
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/01/human-life-evolution-to-self-evolution.html
The Mark Steel Lectures Darwin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIvZvVJs0LI&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Evolution?updated-max=2008-02-15T20%3A13%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=
The Richard Dimbleby Lecture 2007: Dr. J Craig Venter A DNA Driven World
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2007/12/richard-dimbleby-lecture-2007-dna.html
For those stuck on the Dover Trial: NOVA ID on trial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R54LGX5_10&feature=related
The Genius of Charles Darwin (Parts 1,2,3)
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/08/genius-of-charles-darwin-episode-1-of-3.html

Link to a whole bunch of things semi-completely involving evolution
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Evolution

Other (I Feel) Important Links and Talks. I'll add much more later.

A.J. Jacobs: Year of living biblically
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5MkpzMAOZM&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Christian
Missionary Positions (Hilarious)
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/06/missionary-positions.html
Dispatches: In God's Name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeTfW8-dCNE&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Christian?updated-max=2008-06-16T10%3A42%3A00-04%3A00&max-results=
Bible Baby Bashers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP-s3AV9Kzs&eurl=http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/Christian?updated-max=2008-05-13T02%3A40%3A00-04%3A00&max-results=
A Question of Miracles (Corrupt preachers)
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/08/antony-thomas-question-of-miracles.html

The Bible

The History of the Devil
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/08/history-of-devil.html
How The Bible Explains Suffering
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/08/bart-ehrman-how-bible-explains.html
The Bible Unearthed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Oe1UAEATE
The Lost Gospels
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/08/bbc-lost-gospels.html
Banned From the Bible 1 and 2.
http://www.movie-forumz.org/showthread.php?t=9188

Genetics
http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/08/bbc-horizon-ghost-in-your-genes.html

Logical Fallacies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Sq_AzbIJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9QBl7WJ_OM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSrC0TQnqP8 (The Amazing Atheist)


Sunday, August 3, 2008

[116] And The Battle Rages On

Sunday, August 3, 2008 at 9:31am

Ugh, I wasn't even in the mood to really write anything, but recent activity on Youtube has pressed me to speak again so soon.

DonExodus2 is an evolutionary biologist, I have linked to his videos in my No More Excuses section, he is really good at giving major details about evolution and how to combat creationists and creationism. I respect, in a sense, what he is about and have learned much from his videos. With that said, he also considers himself a Christian and made a 2 part video explaining his views in response to subscribers that wanted to know. After watching his videos and reading people's comments I find myself both sad and happy. I'm sad because just like every last person, or frequent idiot as I call them, DonExodus2's completely sound explanations of science, turn to muck when he tries to explain why he believes in God, or more explicitly, why he lives by the gospels and believes them to be true. I'm happy because as I was taking notes to fact check him about when the gospels where compiles, and by who, and the 500 "witnesses" to Jesus's resurrection, I was able to read in the comments people who had already tried pointing out where he had gone wrong. If my computer had sound I would've watched the video responses because there was a lot more to be said and it is the reason I chose to write this.

A couple lines that you endlessly hear from theists in defense of a god or belief in general go as follows. "The apostles died for what they believed about Jesus, therefore it lends credence to his truth." "The difference between belief and knowledge allow for subjective evidence to support a view where the objective evidence is perhaps lacking or incomplete." "Many things cannot be tested empirically, but that does not mean they are wrong." "Don't quote mine the bible because some dreaded line was just part of a story or needs to be kept in context" All of these were used by DonExodus2.

To the first point, as Christopher Hitchens frequently points out, people have died, killed themselves, killed others for many reasons. Whether you believe your dieing for love, a god, or democracy, the act of you dying only proves your conviction, not the truth of the situation. I guess that by alluding to the apostles deaths, it is the people who feel less inclined to sacrifice so greatly, they then regard it so highly. The Don asks the question "What's the different between knowledge and belief?" The way he describes it seems to me like it is blurring the lines between the words. A simple example, I believe my nightstand is hard. My knowledge of particles tells me it is ever in flux and the word hard doesn't even make sense. I think his plan was to stay away from the word faith. Technically, I believe and acknowledge the empirical world around me 100%, whether or not my understanding of that world can be rated that high. It is faith, the ability to believe anything without justification, that fuels the word games and hides in the confusion. The line about many things being untestable, but not necessarily untrue, speaks back to the Russel's teapot and doesn't need to be explained.

The two that I think have the most confusion are his statements about the credibility of subjective evidence and the problem of quote mining. Don made stab at Sam Harris for taking a line from Jesus, who was apparently telling a story, that involved violence. I've had a few hang ups about the "context" objection for a long time, because the people who generally levy that charge don't understand people's inability to understand historical context, let alone the context within a context of an ancient story. I've watched Sam Harris in enough debates and talks to know what he was doing when he took that line and made a speech about it. He was showing what happens when all those who don't have even a basics in "theological understanding," as Don puts it, get a hold of the bible and run wild. It wasn't taking a line and using it to damn all Christians or condemn the "good" parts of the bible, as is what happens when an Islamic "extremist"(o do I hate that term) would do when making a comparison. Also, given the many times Dawkins and Meyers get quote mined and are completely portrayed as an angry loons, you'd think a more honest charge would be levied.

I think the part about the credence of subjective evidence is the worst bit. It just seems totally contradictory and disingenuous to be trained in science, give astounding videos that are backed with pictures, citations, and further resources, to then say when the evidence for a god isn't there or "can't be said," as he puts it, claim not only His truth, but the truth of the gospels, Jesus, etc. I've talked about the time when I was feeling super anxious and my stomach was sick with that butterfly feeling and I asked God in my head, if he felt what we felt and was always with us, was
He suffering at this moment? Creepily, the instant I asked that feeling felt like it was sucked up into my chest and went away. Now back when I bought into religion and knew almost nothing about science, this was damn near Jesus showing up at my door. After further introspection, and nearly a year of learning, I came away with many more likely scenarios for why this would have happened. I absolutely hate when people think I don't understand how they so super strongly feel God's presence and can see him all over. For whatever reason I'm just a fool who can't appreciate the importance and truth of subjective experiences. I just don't understand such compelling feelings of a supernatural life force or love. A big fuck you to those people in light of what it took me to overcome it.

In response to the Don's video, The Amazing Atheist went on a pissed off rant prematurely about, what started off as, a few lines in the opening of the Don's video, and then trailed off into why The Amazing Atheist chose his Youtube handle. Just like every argument of this type, the Don gets to look like a beacon of rationality by staying calm and pointing out the immaturity and hatred of The Amazing Atheist's video, and he is correct in doing so. Unfortunately, just like every argument of this type, nothing the Don says about TAA will validate what he got wrong in his explanation for why he believes in God. Arguments like these frequently distract and detract from the objective analysis about both sides and people can't filter beyond, "He looks like an angry asshole, while he stayed cool and, uber plus, is Christian like me."

What bugged me the most about this whole thing was the Don said something to the effect of, if you live your life by the gospels you'll be a happy person and I can't remember if he says outright that it's the best or true way to live, or just strongly implies that it is. Those kind of statements are the ones that keep us apart. When the cooler headed "rationalist" can still comfortably endorse the reliability of that ONE or BEST way to be happier. When the person who feels they are even meagerly trained in textual understanding can still swallow a puréed view of the bible instead of acknowledging the bad as bad and good as good, the damage is done. It is the very fact that DonExodus2 makes himself sound as intelligent has the rejects I suffer through, when it comes to explaining his belief, that reinforces my view that religion is one of the most destructive things we've ever concocted. It can take a well trained and helpful person and reduce them to a babbling idiot, even though that's the last thing you ever want to call them.

Saturday, December 29, 2007

[50] The Problem With Atheism by Sam Harris

(This is an edited transcript of a talk given at the Atheist Alliance conference in Washington D.C. on September 28th, 2007)
To begin, I'd like to take a moment to acknowledge just how strange it is that a meeting like this is even necessary. The year is 2007, and we have all taken time out of our busy lives, and many of us have traveled considerable distance, so that we can strategize about how best to live in a world in which most people believe in an imaginary God. America is now a nation of 300 million people, wielding more influence than any people in human history, and yet this influence is being steadily corrupted, and is surely waning, because 240 million of these people apparently believe that Jesus will return someday and orchestrate the end of the world with his magic powers.
Of course, we may well wonder whether as many people believe these things as say they do. I know that Christopher [Hitchens] and Richard [Dawkins] are rather optimistic that our opinion polls are out of register with what people actually believe in the privacy of their own minds. But there is no question that most of our neighbors reliably profess that they believe these things, and such professions themselves have had a disastrous affect on our political discourse, on our public policy, on the teaching of science, and on our reputation in the world. And even if only a third or a quarter of our neighbors believe what most profess, it seems to me that we still have a problem worth worrying about.
Now, it is not often that I find myself in a room full of people who are more or less guaranteed to agree with me on the subject of religion. In thinking about what I could say to you all tonight, it seemed to me that I have a choice between throwing red meat to the lions of atheism or moving the conversation into areas where we actually might not agree. I've decided, at some risk to your mood, to take the second approach and to say a few things that might prove controversial in this context.
Given the absence of evidence for God, and the stupidity and suffering that still thrives under the mantle of religion, declaring oneself an "atheist" would seem the only appropriate response. And it is the stance that many of us have proudly and publicly adopted. Tonight, I'd like to try to make the case, that our use of this label is a mistake—and a mistake of some consequence.
My concern with the use of the term "atheism" is both philosophical and strategic. I'm speaking from a somewhat unusual and perhaps paradoxical position because, while I am now one of the public voices of atheism, I never thought of myself as an atheist before being inducted to speak as one. I didn't even use the term in The End of Faith, which remains my most substantial criticism of religion. And, as I argued briefly in Letter to a Christian Nation, I think that "atheist" is a term that we do not need, in the same way that we don't need a word for someone who rejects astrology. We simply do not call people "non-astrologers." All we need are words like "reason" and "evidence" and "common sense" and "bullshit" to put astrologers in their place, and so it could be with religion.
If the comparison with astrology seems too facile, consider the problem of racism. Racism was about as intractable a social problem as we have ever had in this country. We are talking about deeply held convictions. I'm sure you have all seen the photos of lynchings in the first half of the 20th century—where seemingly whole towns in the South, thousands of men, women and children—bankers, lawyers, doctors, teachers, church elders, newspaper editors, policemen, even the occasional Senator and Congressman—turned out as though for a carnival to watch some young man or woman be tortured to death and then strung up on a tree or lamppost for all to see.
Seeing the pictures of these people in their Sunday best, having arranged themselves for a postcard photo under a dangling, and lacerated, and often partially cremated person, is one thing, but realize that these genteel people, who were otherwise quite normal, we must presume—though unfailing religious—often took souvenirs of the body home to show their friends—teeth, ears, fingers, knee caps, internal organs—and sometimes displayed them at their places of business.
Of course, I'm not saying that racism is no longer a problem in this country, but anyone who thinks that the problem is as bad as it ever was has simply forgotten, or has never learned, how bad, in fact, it was.
So, we can now ask, how have people of good will and common sense gone about combating racism? There was a civil rights movement, of course. The KKK was gradually battered to the fringes of society. There have been important and, I think, irrevocable changes in the way we talk about race—our major newspapers no longer publish flagrantly racist articles and editorials as they did less than a century ago—but, ask yourself, how many people have had to identify themselves as "non-racists" to participate in this process? Is there a "non-racist alliance" somewhere for me to join?
Attaching a label to something carries real liabilities, especially if the thing you are naming isn't really a thing at all. And atheism, I would argue, is not a thing. It is not a philosophy, just as "non-racism" is not one. Atheism is not a worldview—and yet most people imagine it to be one and attack it as such. We who do not believe in God are collaborating in this misunderstanding by consenting to be named and by even naming ourselves.
Another problem is that in accepting a label, particularly the label of "atheist," it seems to me that we are consenting to be viewed as a cranky sub-culture. We are consenting to be viewed as a marginal interest group that meets in hotel ballrooms. I'm not saying that meetings like this aren't important. I wouldn't be here if I didn't think it was important. But I am saying that as a matter of philosophy we are guilty of confusion, and as a matter of strategy, we have walked into a trap. It is a trap that has been, in many cases, deliberately set for us. And we have jumped into it with both feet.
While it is an honor to find myself continually assailed with Dan [Dennett], Richard [Dawkins], and Christopher [Hitchens] as though we were a single person with four heads, this whole notion of the "new atheists" or "militant atheists" has been used to keep our criticism of religion at arm's length, and has allowed people to dismiss our arguments without meeting the burden of actually answering them. And while our books have gotten a fair amount of notice, I think this whole conversation about the conflict between faith and reason, and religion and science, has been, and will continue to be, successfully marginalized under the banner of atheism.
So, let me make my somewhat seditious proposal explicit: We should not call ourselves "atheists." We should not call ourselves "secularists." We should not call ourselves "humanists," or "secular humanists," or "naturalists," or "skeptics," or "anti-theists," or "rationalists," or "freethinkers," or "brights." We should not call ourselves anything. We should go under the radar—for the rest of our lives. And while there, we should be decent, responsible people who destroy bad ideas wherever we find them.
Now, it just so happens that religion has more than its fair share of bad ideas. And it remains the only system of thought, where the process of maintaining bad ideas in perpetual immunity from criticism is considered a sacred act. This is the act of faith. And I remain convinced that religious faith is one of the most perverse misuses of intelligence we have ever devised. So we will, inevitably, continue to criticize religious thinking. But we should not define ourselves and name ourselves in opposition to such thinking.
So what does this all mean in practical terms, apart from Margaret Downey having to change her letterhead? Well, rather than declare ourselves "atheists" in opposition to all religion, I think we should do nothing more than advocate reason and intellectual honesty—and where this advocacy causes us to collide with religion, as it inevitably will, we should observe that the points of impact are always with specific religious beliefs—not with religion in general. There is no religion in general.
The problem is that the concept of atheism imposes upon us a false burden of remaining fixated on people's beliefs about God and remaining even-handed in our treatment of religion. But we shouldn't be fixated, and we shouldn't be even-handed. In fact, we should be quick to point out the differences among religions, for two reasons:
First, these differences make all religions look contingent, and therefore silly. Consider the unique features of Mormonism, which may have some relevance in the next Presidential election. Mormonism, it seems to me, is—objectively—just a little more idiotic than Christianity is. It has to be: because it is Christianity plus some very stupid ideas. For instance, the Mormons think Jesus is going to return to earth and administer his Thousand years of Peace, at least part of the time, from the state of Missouri. Why does this make Mormonism less likely to be true than Christianity? Because whatever probability you assign to Jesus' coming back, you have to assign a lesser probability to his coming back and keeping a summer home in Jackson County, Missouri. If Mitt Romney wants to be the next President of the United States, he should be made to feel the burden of our incredulity. We can make common cause with our Christian brothers and sisters on this point. Just what does the man believe? The world should know. And it is almost guaranteed to be embarrassing even to most people who believe in the biblical God.
The second reason to be attentive to the differences among the world's religions is that these differences are actually a matter of life and death. There are very few of us who lie awake at night worrying about the Amish. This is not an accident. While I have no doubt that the Amish are mistreating their children, by not educating them adequately, they are not likely to hijack aircraft and fly them into buildings. But consider how we, as atheists, tend to talk about Islam. Christians often complain that atheists, and the secular world generally, balance every criticism of Muslim extremism with a mention of Christian extremism. The usual approach is to say that they have their jihadists, and we have people who kill abortion doctors. Our Christian neighbors, even the craziest of them, are right to be outraged by this pretense of even-handedness, because the truth is that Islam is quite a bit scarier and more culpable for needless human misery, than Christianity has been for a very, very long time. And the world must wake up to this fact. Muslims themselves must wake up to this fact. And they can.
You might remember that Thomas Friedman recently wrote an op-ed from Iraq, reporting that some Sunni militias are now fighting jihadists alongside American troops. When Friedman asked one Sunni militant why he was doing this, he said that he had recently watched a member of al-Qaeda decapitate an 8-year-old girl. This persuaded him that the American Crusader forces were the lesser of two evils.
Okay, so even some Sunni militants can discern the boundary between ordinary crazy Islam, and the utterly crazy, once it is drawn in the spilled blood of little girls. This is a basis for hope, of sorts. But we have to be honest—unremittingly honest—about what is on the other side of that line. This is what we and the rest of the civilized, and the semi-civilized world, are up against: utter religious lunacy and barbarism in the name of Islam—with, I'm unhappy to say, some mainstream theology to back it up.
To be even-handed when talking about the problem of Islam is to misconstrue the problem. The refrain, "all religions have their extremists," is bullshit—and it is putting the West to sleep. All religions don't have these extremists. Some religions have never had these extremists. And in the Muslim world, support for extremism is not extreme in the sense of being rare. A recent poll showed that about a third of young British Muslims want to live under sharia law and believe that apostates should be killed for leaving the faith. These are British Muslims. Sixty-eight percent of British Muslims feel that their neighbors who insult Islam should be arrested and prosecuted, and seventy-eight percent think that the Danish cartoonists should be brought to justice. These people don't have a clue about what constitutes a civil society. Reports of this kind coming out of the Muslim communities living in the West should worry us, before anything else about religion worries us.
Atheism is too blunt an instrument to use at moments like this. It's as though we have a landscape of human ignorance and bewilderment—with peaks and valleys and local attractors—and the concept of atheism causes us to fixate one part of this landscape, the part related to theistic religion, and then just flattens it. Because to be consistent as atheists we must oppose, or seem to oppose, all faith claims equally. This is a waste of precious time and energy, and it squanders the trust of people who would otherwise agree with us on specific issues.
I'm not at all suggesting that we leave people's core religious beliefs, or faith itself, unscathed—I'm still the kind of person who writes articles with rather sweeping titles like "Science must destroy religion"—but it seems to me that we should never lose sight of useful and important distinctions.
Another problem with calling ourselves "atheists" is that every religious person thinks he has a knockdown argument against atheism. We've all heard these arguments, and we are going to keep hearing them as long as we insist upon calling ourselves "atheists. Arguments like: atheists can't prove that God doesn't exist; atheists are claiming to know there is no God, and this is the most arrogant claim of all. As Rick Warren put it, when he and I debated for Newsweek—a reasonable man like himself "doesn't have enough faith to be an atheist." The idea that the universe could arise without a creator is, on his account, the most extravagant faith claim of all.
Of course, as an argument for the truth of any specific religious doctrine, this is a travesty. And we all know what to do in this situation: We have Russell's teapot, and thousands of dead gods, and now a flying spaghetti monster, the nonexistence of which also cannot be proven, and yet belief in these things is acknowledged to be ridiculous by everyone. The problem is, we have to keep having this same argument, over and over again, and the argument is being generated to a significant degree, if not entirely, over our use of the term "atheism."
So too with the "greatest crimes of the 20th century" argument. How many times are we going to have to counter the charge that Stalin, Hitler, and Pol Pot represent the endgame of atheism? I've got news for you, this meme is not going away. I argued against it in The End of Faith, and it was immediately thrown back at me in reviews of the book as though I had never mentioned it. So I tackled it again in the afterword to the paperback edition of The End of Faith; but this had no effect whatsoever; so at the risk of boring everyone, I brought it up again in Letter to a Christian Nation; and Richard did the same in The God Delusion; and Christopher took a mighty swing at it in God is Not Great. I can assure you that this bogus argument will be with us for as long as people label themselves "atheists." And it really convinces religious people. It convinces moderates and liberals. It even convinces the occasional atheist.
Why should we fall into this trap? Why should we stand obediently in the space provided, in the space carved out by the conceptual scheme of theistic religion? It's as though, before the debate even begins, our opponents draw the chalk-outline of a dead man on the sidewalk, and we just walk up and lie down in it.
Instead of doing this, consider what would happen if we simply used words like "reason" and "evidence." What is the argument against reason? It's true that a few people will bite the bullet here and argue that reason is itself a problem, that the Enlightenment was a failed project, etc. But the truth is that there are very few people, even among religious fundamentalists, who will happily admit to being enemies of reason. In fact, fundamentalists tend to think they are champions of reason and that they have very good reasons for believing in God. Nobody wants to believe things on bad evidence. The desire to know what is actually going on in world is very difficult to argue with. In so far as we represent that desire, we become difficult to argue with. And this desire is not reducible to an interest group. It's not a club or an affiliation, and I think trying to make it one diminishes its power.
The last problem with atheism I'd like to talk about relates to the some of the experiences that lie at the core of many religious traditions, though perhaps not all, and which are testified to, with greater or lesser clarity in the world's "spiritual" and "mystical" literature.
Those of you who have read The End of Faith, know that I don't entirely line up with Dan, Richard, and Christopher in my treatment of these things. So I think I should take a little time to discuss this. While I always use terms like "spiritual" and "mystical" in scare quotes, and take some pains to denude them of metaphysics, the email I receive from my brothers and sisters in arms suggests that many of you find my interest in these topics problematic.
First, let me describe the general phenomenon I'm referring to. Here's what happens, in the generic case: a person, in whatever culture he finds himself, begins to notice that life is difficult. He observes that even in the best of times—no one close to him has died, he's healthy, there are no hostile armies massing in the distance, the fridge is stocked with beer, the weather is just so—even when things are as good as they can be, he notices that at the level of his moment to moment experience, at the level of his attention, he is perpetually on the move, seeking happiness and finding only temporary relief from his search.
We've all noticed this. We seek pleasant sights, and sounds, and tastes, and sensations, and attitudes. We satisfy our intellectual curiosities, and our desire for friendship and romance. We become connoisseurs of art and music and film—but our pleasures are, by their very nature, fleeting. And we can do nothing more than merely reiterate them as often as we are able.
If we enjoy some great professional success, our feelings of accomplishment remain vivid and intoxicating for about an hour, or maybe a day, but then people will begin to ask us "So, what are you going to do next? Don't you have anything else in the pipeline?" Steve Jobs releases the IPhone, and I'm sure it wasn't twenty minutes before someone asked, "when are you going to make this thing smaller?" Notice that very few people at this juncture, no matter what they've accomplished, say, "I'm done. I've met all my goals. Now I'm just going to stay here eat ice cream until I die in front of you."
Even when everything has gone as well as it can go, the search for happiness continues, the effort required to keep doubt and dissatisfaction and boredom at bay continues, moment to moment. If nothing else, the reality of death and the experience of losing loved ones punctures even the most gratifying and well-ordered life.
In this context, certain people have traditionally wondered whether a deeper form of well-being exists. Is there, in other words, a form of happiness that is not contingent upon our merely reiterating our pleasures and successes and avoiding our pains. Is there a form of happiness that is not dependent upon having one's favorite food always available to be placed on one's tongue or having all one's friends and loved ones within arm's reach, or having good books to read, or having something to look forward to on the weekend? Is it possible to be utterly happy before anything happens, before one's desires get gratified, in spite of life's inevitable difficulties, in the very midst of physical pain, old age, disease, and death?
This question, I think, lies at the periphery of everyone's consciousness. We are all, in some sense, living our answer to it—and many of us are living as though the answer is "no." No, there is nothing more profound that repeating one's pleasures and avoiding one's pains; there is nothing more profound that seeking satisfaction, both sensory and intellectual. Many of us seem think that all we can do is just keep our foot on the gas until we run out of road.
But certain people, for whatever reason, are led to suspect that there is more to human experience than this. In fact, many of them are led to suspect this by religion—by the claims of people like the Buddha or Jesus or some other celebrated religious figures. And such a person may begin to practice various disciplines of attention—often called "meditation" or "contemplation"—as a means of examining his moment to moment experience closely enough to see if a deeper basis of well-being is there to be found.
Such a person might even hole himself up in a cave, or in a monastery, for months or years at a time to facilitate this process. Why would somebody do this? Well, it amounts to a very simple experiment. Here's the logic of it: if there is a form of psychological well-being that isn't contingent upon merely repeating one's pleasures, then this happiness should be available even when all the obvious sources of pleasure and satisfaction have been removed. If it exists at all, this happiness should be available to a person who has renounced all her material possessions, and declined to marry her high school sweetheart, and gone off to a cave or to some other spot that would seem profoundly uncongenial to the satisfaction of ordinary desires and aspirations.
One clue as to how daunting most people would find such a project is the fact that solitary confinement—which is essentially what we are talking about—is considered a punishment even inside a prison. Even when cooped up with homicidal maniacs and rapists, most people still prefer the company of others to spending any significant amount of time alone in a box.
And yet, for thousands of years, contemplatives have claimed to find extraordinary depths of psychological well-being while spending vast stretches of time in total isolation. It seems to me that, as rational people, whether we call ourselves "atheists" or not, we have a choice to make in how we view this whole enterprise. Either the contemplative literature is a mere catalogue of religious delusion, deliberate fraud, and psychopathology, or people have been having interesting and even normative experiences under the name of "spirituality" and "mysticism" for millennia.
Now let me just assert, on the basis of my own study and experience, that there is no question in my mind that people have improved their emotional lives, and their self-understanding, and their ethical intuitions, and have even had important insights about the nature of subjectivity itself through a variety of traditional practices like meditation.
Leaving aside all the metaphysics and mythology and mumbo jumbo, what contemplatives and mystics over the millennia claim to have discovered is that there is an alternative to merely living at the mercy of the next neurotic thought that comes careening into consciousness. There is an alternative to being continuously spellbound by the conversation we are having with ourselves.
Most us think that if a person is walking down the street talking to himself—that is, not able to censor himself in front of other people—he's probably mentally ill. But if we talk to ourselves all day long silently—thinking, thinking, thinking, rehearsing prior conversations, thinking about what we said, what we didn't say, what we should have said, jabbering on to ourselves about what we hope is going to happen, what just happened, what almost happened, what should have happened, what may yet happen—but we just know enough to just keep this conversation private, this is perfectly normal. This is perfectly compatible with sanity. Well, this is not what the experience of millions of contemplatives suggests.
Of course, I am by no means denying the importance of thinking. There is no question that linguistic thought is indispensable for us. It is, in large part, what makes us human. It is the fabric of almost all culture and every social relationship. Needless to say, it is the basis of all science. And it is surely responsible for much rudimentary cognition—for integrating beliefs, planning, explicit learning, moral reasoning, and many other mental capacities. Even talking to oneself out loud may occasionally serve a useful function.
From the point of view of our contemplative traditions, however—to boil them all down to a cartoon version, that ignores the rather esoteric disputes among them—our habitual identification with discursive thought, our failure moment to moment to recognize thoughts as thoughts, is a primary source of human suffering. And when a person breaks this spell, an extraordinary kind of relief is available.
But the problem with a contemplative claim of this sort is that you can't borrow someone else's contemplative tools to test it. The problem is that to test such a claim—indeed, to even appreciate how distracted we tend to be in the first place, we have to build our own contemplative tools. Imagine where astronomy would be if everyone had to build his own telescope before he could even begin to see if astronomy was a legitimate enterprise. It wouldn't make the sky any less worthy of investigation, but it would make it immensely more difficult for us to establish astronomy as a science.
To judge the empirical claims of contemplatives, you have to build your own telescope. Judging their metaphysical claims is another matter: many of these can be dismissed as bad science or bad philosophy by merely thinking about them. But to judge whether certain experiences are possible—and if possible, desirable—we have to be able to use our attention in the requisite ways. We have to be able to break our identification with discursive thought, if only for a few moments. This can take a tremendous amount of work. And it is not work that our culture knows much about.
One problem with atheism as a category of thought, is that it seems more or less synonymous with not being interested in what someone like the Buddha or Jesus may have actually experienced. In fact, many atheists reject such experiences out of hand, as either impossible, or if possible, not worth wanting. Another common mistake is to imagine that such experiences are necessarily equivalent to states of mind with which many of us are already familiar—the feeling of scientific awe, or ordinary states of aesthetic appreciation, artistic inspiration, etc.
As someone who has made his own modest efforts in this area, let me assure you, that when a person goes into solitude and trains himself in meditation for 15 or 18 hours a day, for months or years at a time, in silence, doing nothing else—not talking, not reading, not writing—just making a sustained moment to moment effort to merely observe the contents of consciousness and to not get lost in thought, he experiences things that most scientists and artists are not likely to have experienced, unless they have made precisely the same efforts at introspection. And these experiences have a lot to say about the plasticity of the human mind and about the possibilities of human happiness.
So, apart from just commending these phenomena to your attention, I'd like to point out that, as atheists, our neglect of this area of human experience puts us at a rhetorical disadvantage. Because millions of people have had these experiences, and many millions more have had glimmers of them, and we, as atheists, ignore such phenomena, almost in principle, because of their religious associations—and yet these experiences often constitute the most important and transformative moments in a person's life. Not recognizing that such experiences are possible or important can make us appear less wise even than our craziest religious opponents.
My concern is that atheism can easily become the position of not being interested in certain possibilities in principle. I don't know if our universe is, as JBS Haldane said, "not only stranger than we suppose, but stranger than we can suppose." But I am sure that it is stranger than we, as "atheists," tend to represent while advocating atheism. As "atheists" we give others, and even ourselves, the sense that we are well on our way toward purging the universe of mystery. As advocates of reason, we know that mystery is going to be with us for a very long time. Indeed, there are good reasons to believe that mystery is ineradicable from our circumstance, because however much we know, it seems like there will always be brute facts that we cannot account for but which we must rely upon to explain everything else. This may be a problem for epistemology but it is not a problem for human life and for human solidarity. It does not rob our lives of meaning. And it is not a barrier to human happiness.
We are faced, however, with the challenge of communicating this view to others. We are faced with the monumental task of persuading a myth-infatuated world that love and curiosity are sufficient, and that we need not console or frighten ourselves or our children with Iron Age fairy tales. I don't think there is a more important intellectual struggle to win; it has to be fought from a hundred sides, all at once, and continuously; but it seems to me that there is no reason for us to fight in well-ordered ranks, like the red coats of Atheism.
Finally, I think it's useful to envision what victory will look like. Again, the analogy with racism seems instructive to me. What will victory against racism look like, should that happy day ever dawn? It certainly won't be a world in which a majority of people profess that they are "nonracist." Most likely, it will be a world in which the very concept of separate races has lost its meaning.
We will have won this war of ideas against religion when atheism is scarcely intelligible as a concept. We will simply find ourselves in a world in which people cease to praise one another for pretending to know things they do not know. This is certainly a future worth fighting for. It may be the only future compatible with our long-term survival as a species. But the only path between now and then, that I can see, is for us to be rigorously honest in the present. It seems to me that intellectual honesty is now, and will always be, deeper and more durable, and more easily spread, than "atheism."